Gather around the dining table, friends! This week, guest Drew Meyer joins us to have a surprisingly level-headed conversation about the 1994 Denis Leary/Kevin Spacey comedy The Ref. What was supposed to be a shorter episode spins out of control as we keep finding little details that demand to be discussed. From the screenwriting craft to the mid-90s suburban malaise, The Ref is full of fun little cinematic surprises.

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SHOW NOTES FOR THIS EPISODE:

• The Ref is currently streaming on Netflix.
• Check out Drew’s Doctor Who podcast: Who & Company.
• KRANKOMETER: (3, 4)

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